The ‘Esther Calling’ Session That Shocked Even Esther Perel

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On this week’s “Esther Calling” episode of the Where Should We Begin? podcast — part of the Vox Media Podcast Network — host and psychotherapist Esther Perel did something she almost never does: She asked the person on the other end of the phone to consider ending her relationship. Or, as Esther put it weeks later to the Cut, “I didn’t literally say ‘run,’ but in effect, that was the energy of the session.”

“This is all I said: Something is off here,” Esther continues.