'A lot of ugliness': Pete Buttigieg on why he wants to butt heads on Fox News

Pete Buttigieg has earned a reputation as a rare Democrat who can go on Fox News and hold his own, but he said there's no secret to his success there.

The transportation secretary sat down with Rolling Stone for a wide-ranging exit interview on his time in President Joe Biden's administration, and he was asked to comment on his technique in communicating to a conservative TV audience.

"I don’t know if there’s any magic to it," Buttigieg said. "A lot of it’s just simply going there.